Scary yaoi fangirls

jazzy.jpgI’ve recently come across this new species. They’re called: Scary yaoi girls.

Maybe it’s because I’m not an American anime fan, but I’ve never in my life encountered this otaku fan species. From reading bloggers and lurking around fanforums, the general consensus is that these yaoi fangirls are worse than irritating. Some come close to calling them abominable.

As this post on Tainted Blog says in her rant, I Hate Fangirls, or How I Spent My Summer Vacation Part I of II:

So stop writing your fanfics slashing every male character known to man together, stop acting like Gravitation is the pinnacle of genius (and if you honestly think this, then you are either lobotomized, under the influence of heroin, or a fucking retard), and sit down and shut the fuck up because you’re making all of the more subdued and discreet fans look like jackasses.

And from travels around the animeblogosphere, this species have the tendency to:

  • Look longingly at actual gay guys and follow them around
  • Slash every known canonical character (do not, for the love of God, tell me how much you love Roy heart Ed! Don’t touch my Roy!)
  • Think you’re a homophobe if you don’t like yaoi
  • Think you’re a loser if you don’t like yaoi
  • Talk really loudly about yaoi and make sure you know that they are yaoi fans.

Wow, this makes me very reluctant to admit that I read yaoi. The fact that I’m not of ideal size would probably lump me in the “fat yaoi fangirl” category which would really suck.

So I read yaoi? Big deal. I read Monster and Black Cat too. In fact, I wouldn’t even really categorise myself as solely a yaoi fan because I read a wide variety of manga; the bookstore person where I buy my manga from even know what I’d like: deep, dark, and gloomy stuff. 😛

Yeah, yeah, I do find yaoi fascinating. But most of the time I find it quite stupid. 😉 I mean, hello? What’s with this constant “I like you,” remarks in the genre? And you love the guy after a night in the sack? Sure. I find it funny. But I enjoy it for what it is: Fantasy.

Slash fanfics? I hate it. I vehemently cannot read them. I suppose scary yaoi fangirls would start sending me hatemail when I say that. 😛

And no, I honestly don’t think Gravitation is the pinnacle of genius. I think the art sucks big time, but I find the relationship between Yuki and Souichi funny – touching even at some points. (Btw, there’s nothing pron-ish about Gravitation, honestly, but that’s just me.)

Fake is another widely-praised shonen-ai series, which I don’t understand why to be honest. Art was awful in my opinion and the little kids that tag around Ryo? I want to murder them. Bloody annoying creatures. And Ryo is way too much of a tease. Of course it does wonders to the Unresolved Sexual Tension. But it’s not all bad. You do want to see them hit it off. (cough cough)

The fangirls I’ve met in my country are rather … normal ones. Sure they love anime and stuff, but you wouldn’t guess it if they sat next to you. The ones I’ve met are successful career women while some are quiet, studious students (in Malaysia, smart people are generally more popular in school, not “losers”).

Or maybe us Asians are just generally more subdued. 😉

You know, I generally hold this principle: You can act however you want to celebrate your love for whatever fandom you’re in. However, when you tell me how I should love my fandom and the way I show my love of it is inadequate and on a loser scale? Stay away.

So I think this is the main reason why people dislike rabid fans of any genre be it yaoi, anime whatever: you just get this general impression that they think you suck because you don’t like the same things they do or do the same things they do to express their love for the genre.

This really makes me think twice about attending an anime convention in America. (Maybe British anime fans are less crazy.) I even cheekily suggested to my friend that we attend yaoi-con, but after reading about scary yaoi girls, maybe I should run.

They’d probably drive me ballistic.

85 Responses to Scary yaoi fangirls

  1. Atazure says:

    I think, the main problem with people like “rabid yaoi fans” is that. they have become what they are, because of people who don’t like yaoi, and are quite retarded and aggressive with their opinions. I myself am no big fan of yaoi, i don’t diss it, it’s just, not realistic in my opinion. It’s hard for me to enjoy something, when i can’t believe in it. Moving on.

    I’ve never really MET a rabid yaoi fangirl, but i did meet some rabid anime fans. In Poland, where i live, anime is remarked as something highly sexual and improper for human beings of any age or sex.
    I have met a lot of those crazy fans, and i pity them greately. After all, they have long forgotten the basic meaning of the word “opinion” and seem to believe that when you don’t liek what they like, you’re criticising that thing, and you just simply do not understand it, that’s why you don’t like it.
    Many of my friends are not interested in anime, and often, when i first told them i liked it, became sort of reserved, remembering probably how tacky and psyhoaggressive fans can be.

    Wow, a rant again. Anyway, i think the solution to this situation, is ignoring girls like that. Atleast that’s what i do. When i see that characteristic red gleam in the eye of a fan, i just retreat with a shrug or smile. 🙂

    And about those slash fanarts/fanfics. UGH. Just…ugh…As i have stated earlier i like things to go realistic, and whenever i see a fan created story, with two characters i know acting in a totally uncharacteristic way(esspecially since people love to make heterosexual characters, homosexual) i just can’t help but shudder. Sexuality is a very serious matter and often a traumatic subject, making it look like a trivial feeling, easily changed, that’s something i just can’t take. Oh, and i do know that all that is fiction/fantasy/not real but…I’m just weird that way 🙂

    UGH. sorry for the long rant :B

  2. Hey, you and I are the same – I too get turned if things aren’t realistic. Which is why I don’t like many yaoi manga. I think I can count the ones I really like on one hand.

    Yes, don’t you hate it when they put two hetrosexual characters together and say they’re so gay for each other? I don’t get it. It’s just not realistic! It’s the incest ones I really, really, really DO NOT get. Why do you like to see two brothers getting it on??? Faramir and Boromir? Ed and Al from Fullmetal Alchemist? Why??

    I tend to avoid even looking at those because if I do then when I watch LOTR or FMA or whatever, I’ll be thinking of what happens in the fanfic and it’ll totally spoil my experience. 😛

    Kitty

  3. Oh yeah, and maybe you’re right – perhaps the whole rabidness is a defiant stance against yaoi haters. 🙂 But then again, following gay guys around? I’m not sure about that!

  4. Atazure says:

    EXACLY. Yaoi has been mainly turning me off because of how the guys are non-realistic. Since they’re so non-realistic, i’d enjoy reading it if they were atleast amusing, but they’re not. They’re all the same ‘_’ there’s a certain limit of preetiness i can take and one yaoi volume i saw a year ago, has totally covered that limit for the next 2 years :I

    INCEST. AWGH >_

  5. Atazure says:

    EXACLY. Yaoi has been mainly turning me off because of how the guys are non-realistic. Since they’re so non-realistic, i’d enjoy reading it if they were atleast amusing, but they’re not. They’re all the same ‘_’ there’s a certain limit of preetiness i can take and one yaoi volume i saw a year ago, has totally covered that limit for the next 2 years :I

    INCEST. AWGH D: I find incest SO weird. I mean, the diversity of love, the huge amount of different kinds of is what is so amazing about, and makes it so precious! Why do people have to try and merge all those types into one, romantic or sexual? DIVERISTY PPL! DIVERISTY!

    And i won’t even comment on the whole Al Ed, thing OR the LOTR one. They’re FAMILY! That’s something totally different, geez.

    That’s just being creepy o_o. Like..mega creepy.

    But, yaoi actually made me think if gay guys really can be pretty cool and masculine and not girly, and since i don’t know many (like, noone), i asked a friend of mine who knows some, and she just laughed and said that every gay guy she knows is pretty much acting feminine and stuff. I think that’s were yaoi/shounen-ai really lost me.

    Oh! and btw, maybe i’d like the ones you do! Care sparing some titles? I’m always open for a good read.

  6. Kitty says:

    Try reading The Tyrant Who Falls in Love – but the scanlation groups have taken it off, though dramaqueen is licensing it. Tyrant wins because the characters are very lovable and it’s hilarious! The art is pretty gorgeous too.

    To be honest there really aren’t many that I really like or are really realistic. Embracing Love by Yoko Nitta is not bad either – it’s sweet to see the relationship between the two develop from a hostile, competitive one to the loving couple they become at the end of 10 volumes. Yes, ten. They’re very well developed characters.

    I’m usually a sucker for anything Masara Minase because I love her art, stories are so-so. Not bad, but not fantastic either.

    Innocent Bird is Shonen-Ai. It’s not bad at all. I was fascinated by the whole angel hierarchy etc. Very good – it’s complete – go to http://www.mangaupdates.com and search for ‘innocent bird’.

    Other than that I honestly can’t think of any that I really like, 😛

  7. Hinano says:

    I think yaoi is funny o_O I mean literally most animes about yaoi/BL are like…funny to watch, they’re comedic!

    I mean look @ Princess Princess and Gravitation. I wouldn’t say they’re serious deep plotlines but I was laughing my butt off when watching. Heck I even enjoyed Gakuen Heaven despite all the corny cheese in the show.

    yaoi fangirls remind me of the religiuos fanatics who stand around places and shove “jesus” flyers in your face lol except the yaoi fangirls yell in your face instead of shoving paper.

    I go to an anime con every other year (Otakon) and its not that bad. Yea there’s the crazy yaoi fangirls (hell Iused to be friends with one…note the USED to xD;;) but they don’t usually jump in your face unless you’re cosplaying the pinacle of their fandom (I.E. Ed/Al/Roy whatever). Plus Otakon is sooo crowded that sometimes there isn’t even room for them to act insane 😀

  8. drmchsr0 says:

    KUSO. MISO. TECHNIQUE.

    That’s some good quality hardcore yaoi there.

    Also, SHIKIBAKO.

    Heh. I haven’t met any rabid yaoi fangirls yet…

  9. […] Fangirl backlash from Tainted Blog. Some nice pushback from Anime Bento, while JP Meyer explains why hatin’ on the fangirls (and boys) is just playing into society’s patriarchal norms. I’m with JP on this one. If you don’t like the way someone acts, do them a favor and tell them so. If you don’t like the way they look, STFU. They may not like it either. […]

  10. hopeless says:

    I’ve never met a rabid yaoi fangirl, despite the supposed infamy of the species, although I’ve never met anime fans apart from those which I have coverted; in fact, I cannot recall anyone I’d call that online. Yaoi fans, yes, but not those who conform to a stereotype, although of course this may be due to Britain’s general lack of public anime fanboy/girlism.

    I don’t think there is anything wrong at all with being insanely addicted to yaoi – after all, some people are the same with yuri, or Haruhi, or anything else – but I would be annoyed if said fangirls tried to impress and force their views upon others with a single-minded inability to see possible errors in their arguments and pairings, or consider the possbility of a non-yaoi pairing involving paring favourites.

  11. […] Anime Bento did a sensible, intelligent take on it, which might or might not have set off Ashley. “Scary Yaoi Fangirls” […]

  12. natsuhiiko says:

    I like yaoi, support gay men…(and even if I’m a yaoi fangirl I’ve got my tastes -_- I seriously can’t understand yaoi fangirls that pairs every other man with another o_O almost all the time) and NOOOOOOOOOO!!! Don’t make me read or watch incest, it’s just NOT RIGHT!!! >_>

    oh but to just spite you xD Roy belongs with Ed! *evil cackle* mwehehehe!

  13. timbean says:

    hello, just stumbled across your blog here. =)

    right then. i’m an american yaoi fan and i have no problem admitting it.

    i can say that a good portion of /rabid/ yaoi fans are most likely younger fans who are very exuberant for many different reasons. one could be attributed to the viscious and uncompromising arguments that occur in “real life” and online between american anime/manga fans on the subject of homosexuality. the “rabid het fan” is just as awe-inspiringly awful as any rabid yaoi fan. it’s all relative, really. the voices of moderation and wisdom (ie: the placid and open-minded fans, yaoi or otherwise.) are always overlooked in favor for the wild and inane voices of fanatical fans. the extreme ends of the spectrum always get more press. =)

    also, many yaoi fans i know and have become friends with are not solely interested in pairing and slashing males. they, like myself, like heterosexual pairings and lesbian pairings as well. for us it’s not the “sex” (although, that is a plus.) it’s the relationship potential seen in the show or manga that is liked as much as any aesthetic appeal the pairing might have.

    as for fanfiction: i think people are missing out if they don’t read fanfiction at all. granted, all fanfic are NOT fantastic, but some of the /best/ and most thoughtful spins on my favorite shows and books have been portrayed in fanfic. it is possible to slash characters thoughtfully and realistically, as well as giving an in depth plot.

    as for the incest bit: different strokes for different folks. i have no issue with it and several pairings i like are incest.

    i’ve had leanings recently to more realistic shows as well. in fact, it’s how i found your blog. i searched for “honey and clover slash archives”. you were the first link. 😉

    to sum this very long post up… i think the “rabid” fans, yaoi or otherwise, are actually very much in the minority, they just happen to be very very vocal.

  14. Elizabeth Tan says:

    I’ve always wanted to go to a yaoicon, but after reading this, I am very, very afraid. I like yaoi in general, and don’t fluant it. Maybe it is because I’m asian [singaporean *wink*]. There is a definate difference between them, as in americans and asian. Rabid fangirls annoy me really.

  15. terra says:

    SHUT UP!!! Im a yaoi fangirl!!!! im proud of it, too!!! there are lots of guys who love seeing girls makeing out or haveing sex, and we females never complained! but when girls start thinking gay guys are hot, people flip! stop complaining about how you like roy and thus dont want to see him with ed. lots of other people do. i dont like sakuraxnaruto in naruto, but i dont complain!! so leave us alone!! we dont care if you dont like it or if you think the art in gravitation sucks! so stop acting like were some type of inpure germ! LOTS of guys like hentai, but we dont call them ‘rapid hentai-fans’ we dont call them anything. we just think of them as normal otaku guys.
    Oh, and by the way: WE DONT CARE IF WE ANNOY YOU! WHEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW WE ACT, IT ONLY MAKES US WANT TO ANNOY YOU MORE!!!

  16. Atazure says:

    Actually i think they ARE called rapid-hentai-fans.

  17. Kitty says:

    Stare’s at terra’s comment. WHOA. That’s what I call scary yaoi fangirls. 😛 Terra, as you know I’ve not met any ‘scary yaoi fangirls’, and most yaoi fangirls I’ve met are rather … normal. Meaning, they don’t go on a rampage when you say that you don’t like roy x ed, or get really, really upset when they say that gravitation is less than perfect. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions, and yeah, i don’t mind if you don’t care what I think because it’s your right! 😉

    Atazure: “Rapid?” 😉

  18. Kazz says:

    Eek!
    I’m a yaoi fangirl and I’m glad that I’m not a rabid one. That would scare myself as well as other people. o.O
    Yes, I can get quite out of hand sometimes when I love an anime too much, but I do that with everything I love alot. And no, I don’t shout at anybody or anything like that. I just keep my excitment over whatever I’m currently obsessing over to myself. Not too many incest supporters here, huh? I’m guessing we’re a minority then. I mainly like twincest but just regular ‘ol incest is fine by me.
    I hardly ever read fanfics, I mainly just watch/read yaoi things. Mmmyep.
    In Clonclusion I’d like to state that not all American yaoi fangirls will shout in your face and demand that you like what they support. Infact, quite a few are pretty nice and welcoming to your own opinions.

  19. Atazure says:

    Ugh. Okay, let me try and save the situation for myself (for not spotting her grammar mistake D: ) AWGH! Damn you non-nativity! DAMN you!

    ….uh…rapid is the NEW rabid (according to my secret trend source Scotty Kangaroojus) Since “p”, is actually a small “b” turned upside down! HA.

    ^_______^ ? Yes?

  20. uchihaheir says:

    I like yaoi, read the manga and yes some fanfic. I own many doujinshi. I live in America. I do NOT fall under the rabid yaoi fangirl. I enjoy it yes and have written a fanfic of yaoi. Will I force it on others….no! Several of my friends are gay or bisexual and we have tons of fun talking about how cheezy and uneducated these seem. I find that many of these “rabid fangirls” are of the younger crowd and seem to think it’s funny but if you ask any of them if they would really watch two guys go at it most will say that it’s gross……go fig.

  21. chunky-chan says:

    I guess i should call myself a yaoi fangirl but of course i don’t flaunt it ( to others i don’t know, at least). maybe it’s cuz i’m asian, also. ASIANS ROCK. sometimes incest makes me shudder and sometimes it doesn’t. i mean like…if it’s 2 asian siblings gettin it on…i will probably puke. i don’t know but when i think of those things, it’s like my brother and i doin it. EEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWW. *shudders* okay, well..um…on a lighter note, i suppose those crazy rabid (or is it rapid?) yaoi fangirls should chill alittle. just a tad.
    and i guess i’m guilty. so sue me. i used to think (USED TO, I SAY!!) that gravitation was like the key to life. so i got a lil obsessed. lol. and the slash fics? sue me again. but i wouldn’t pair just anybody together. probably just people who are already gay or bi or whatever. that’s just me.
    also, i seriously hope this wasn’t a waste of your time reading my opinion. 😛

  22. Novatemari says:

    I am actually a very recent American yaoi fangirl and a young one (17-years-old), and really do love the genre. I admitt to gettin excited when other people also like yaoi simply because its nice to have something in common with another person. I don’t force down a friends throat if its not their cup of tea; I suppose its a respect thing.
    Your correct in saying that some yaoi/shounen-ai are very unrealistic, but being a hopless romantic and a lover of fantasy in general (huge Harry Potter fan, but the RonxHarry pairing is just to weird for me) that aspect of it never really bothered me. The fanfiction on the other hand can get extremly unrealistic, sometimes completely changing the personalities of characters in order to create a love/sex scene (RoyxEd). Which is why i usually read the original fanfiction. The incest exactly somethin I’m into, call me a hypocrite but its alrite, though still wierd, in animes but in real life its crossing a delicate line, family shouldnt become lovers, thats not familial bonds are about (though you cant help who you fall in love with).
    Gravitation happens ot just be funny and cute to me, it holds a place in my heart as my very first shounen-ai/yaoi, but i won’t pretend that plot is very deep; I have friends who or larger yaoi fans than I am and cant stand it (to “soft-core” or something) but resepect of opinion is very important in a friendship. Gakuen Heaven and Sukisyo also very funny, but in these cases I think it was slightly overdone. So far the best yaoi I have ever seen was Ai no Kusabi, very dark and beautful love story based on a book by the same title, sure the animation is old (mid-90’s) but the story was incredible for me.
    I have yet to meet any rabid yaoi fan girls, but rabid fans in general frighten me: all that extra hostile engery is something to beware of. Even more moderate anime fans can get just a little excited when talking about their favorite animes and mangas, and i mean Bleach and Naruto anime/manga as well, I can vouch for this from conversations with my friends who made me a anime lover in the first place.
    What I mean to say is that I am proud to be a yaoi lover simply the shoujo stuff was getting a but redunant and I appreciated the change. There’s nothing wrong with someone who doesnt like the genre, they dont have to be homophobes.
    Hope you didnt mind reading my post but I had to dfefend american yaoi fangirls everywhere.

  23. Brittni says:

    Now, I get that you are a homophobe and hate anyone who isnt, but just because guy on guy sex makes me happy (and slightly horny) does not mean it is bad. Now, I am not going to ‘flame’ you. I am merely telling you that you are WRONG!!!! Your the same as fucking bush. Dont you think that gay people hould get married? Isnt love the same, no matter what gender you are? Now I admit that it is easier for me to accept yoai than for me to accept yuri, but I DO accept it. I really wish people would think about the issues before writing crap like this. Let me refrase that. Before writing SHIT like this. L8R phobic people.

  24. Kitty says:

    My dear Brittni,

    You DO know that I read yaoi right? And that I have even a CATEGORY for that. And that I REVIEW Yaoi manga? I wish people would read posts carefully before writing crap, I mean, comments like this.

  25. […] Wow, my post, Scary Yaoi Fangirls, really brought some of them to my blog’s door (just read some of the comments under the post). Now that I have my brush with them, let me just say that I’m glad that I live half a world away from them. […]

  26. Minori says:

    Well, I am insulted. If you don’t like crazed fangirls, ignore them.
    I like bl, and yaoi is an outdated term in Japan. This really aggravates me that people write things complaining about other people. You’re notperfect either, get a grip.

  27. Beyond says:

    What minori said.
    Everybodies different, and nobodies perfect. I like yaoi(and pretty much every other genre of anything), and yet I don’t have a problem if some one has a different veiw from me. I just don’t get it when people rant on and on about how much they hate this or that, yet act as though their opinion is all deciding and everybody should think that way. As it’s been said before many times; if you don’t like something, ignore it,
    I think everybody has a fair point, but some shouldn’t be so short sighted in thinking that their’s is the only opinion that matters. Also I really think that more labels are just a little too much, with ‘fat yaoi fangirls’, and ‘scary yaoi fangirls’. Do we REALLY need to categorise every SINGLE person on this planet?

  28. mingzhu says:

    Talk about sensitive issue. ^_^;

    I’m a girl and pretty much open to yaoi. I agree with some of your points, like there are some scary fans, but I think in every fandom there will always be the category of “scary fans”. XD

    I somewhat like Gravitation and I respect your opinions. I don’t like yaoi pairings that are not intended to be yaoi pairings such as Sasunaru or RoyEd and not because I’m a homophobe but because they weren’t intended to be paired up in the first place. So unless there’s a tag saying “THIS ANIME CONTAINS YAOI OR SHONEN-AI,” I won’t even consider anything yaoi in it.. unless you count Nuriko from Fushigi Yuugi and Kadsuki from Getbackers. >_> Well.. there will be some exceptions, I suppose.

    A lot of my friends are yaoi fanatics but they don’t really bother me. There are some really good artwork and fanfics that don’t involve anything hentai-ish when it comes to yaoi. Then again, I’m Asian too. I don’t know what it’s like on the other side of the world.. but I doubt it’s any different from where I’m standing. ^_^

    And incest.. *roll eyes* Gross much.. I won’t even start imagining it. Thinking of siblings just going at it is just… so not my thing. >__>

    And those rabid fans who try to make you think like they do and try to force it down your throat…? They’re called -tards. There’s a difference between tards and fans. Tards should be bricked because it would stop them from mixing gene pools and multiplying. :]

    Have a nice day~

  29. Nabi says:

    I find crazed bl fans amusing…well most of the time. I had a really traumatizing experience in San Francisco’s YaoiCon once, where I was harassed while waiting in line to sign up for a yaoi magazine subscription. The lady and her comrades were down right scary, luckily I had a sister who was scarier…ahaha…

    I like most yaoi with a storyline, my fiance has yet to understand my interest, but does not deter my interest. Love Mode, Sex Pistols and Wild Rocks are my hardcore favorites and Little Butterfly, Our Kingdom and also Boy Princess are my non-hentai fav.

    I’m starting a collection, that way it is easier to share with my friends. Okay that’s it good-bye.

  30. Kitty says:

    I love Little Butterfly! When it comes to ‘hardcore’ I would say I love Tyrant Who Falls in Love and Embracing Love. (Those two make me melt)

  31. Tomiko90 says:

    I am a yaoi fan girl and I haven’t met any rabid ones yet. I actually don’t mind reading yuri either. I don’t like anything too harcore. I like more romantic stuff and I usually keep it pg-13 teehee. And for incest…well it really depends. Some pairs I like and some I don’t care for. I actually don’t know if any of my friends are into yaoi. I just like it when it has a nice story. I also like if it’s just implied shounen-ai or shoujo-ai.

    well I just wanted to let u know that not ALL american yaoi fangirls are scary.

  32. raira says:

    As for me, i am a yaoi fan girl. The reason that i love yaoi because of the beautiful, hot bishounens and the romantic stories. However, i hate hardcores and incests because its just too much for me. The same also applies for dounjinshis. A bishounen lover like me always find it hard to resist yaoi mangas^_^. As i live in Malaysia, i just keep yaoi to myself, since i know that not all people could accept this genre and i respect them for that. No harm done^__^. Until now, i never met a rabid yaoi fan girl yet and i think i’ll never met one.

  33. Annala says:

    This is actually very funny, as I have met one rabid yaoi fangirl, and one rabid yaoi fanGUY. I’m an american and I don’t have a problem reading basically any genre of manga (or anime) but I do think it’s hilarious to hear about them. For what I can say, don’t let them scare you away from cons. Not all of us in the states are like that!
    Oh, and the best thing to do if you do meet one is just slowly back away and procede to ignore them!

  34. RoyEd_Lemons4_All says:

    Oh, STFU! Gravitation kicks ass and is the best anime since FMA! And btw I HATE Roy fangirls and Ed fangirls; I also like to mess with knives, catch my meaning? You suck bitch, you suck.

    Fuck you and I hope you get mobbed by angry yaoi fans like myself.

    Go screw yourself,
    Ash Aarons.

  35. afrox says:

    this article and the coments on it were both interesting and true…
    while i do enjoy yaoi I enjoy it in moderation… I would rather read somthing that makes me think…. When I asked a freind who liked yaoi too why she replied “because its HOT” witch is true but i prefer fluffy hugin to full out pr0n… I rather ashamed to say I read slash fics but i do, for both fun and cause they’re hot… BUT that does NOT mean I think that as the “ONE TRUE PAIRING” its just for fun realy…the fangirls who support it so strongly make me laugh… but I do agree sometimes… I don’t think it makes me a bad person that I like yaoi and I also read “strait” manga and fanfics, but yaoi is a great deal of fun, even if you laugh at it….
    Just wanted to say my opinion… enjoyed reading this!

  36. Yorico_Fan says:

    I am a FanGirl of YAOI. It is just so much fun to read, and see it. I’m not that much of a prevert. I love shonenai, and hentai. It’s all the same to me. I’m writting my own fanfics, for anime/manga. It is fun to do, and I’m one (Hell) of a fangirl. A lot of people find me weird. But I don’t care, because I have ways of turning people onto Fanfics, and Anime/Manga that includes such things. I love manga/anime that includes alot of striaght, Bisexual, or even trisexual guys. I love magic being included, for ex:FullMetal Alchemist. I love fruits baslet, Black Cat. (I love the opening theme.)
    To me I just love these thypes of things. I’m a major fangirl. Beyond that. I have a whole closet full of stories, pictures of cute guys, or pretty girls. I guess you could say that I am obsessive. I love the guys and I’ll alwayas be their wife, and babies momma, but there’s one question. What if they all binded into one surper hot cutie, and they were standing in front of you, and your bed, or in your house?
    My answer is I will bang the (Hell) out of them, marry, and have their babies.

  37. susha says:

    I like reading Yaoi… am I a scary yaoi fangirl? No. I don’t think every male character known to manga/anime should be gay (if I want yaoi… I read things like FAKE). In fact, I don’t even like Gravitation. I like to read Yaoi in moderation. I know scary yaoi fangirls, and I understand why they are so scary. I don’t know, I’m a very quiet fanfic wrter/reader, I’m not flamboyant, and I do think that many people believe that all fanfic wrtiters are all obsessed with yaoi… which is not true. So for those of you who love yaoi, keep it to yourself, or find someone whp shares your obsession (like me, if you must) and for those of you for whom yaoi does not appeal too, don’t hate the fangirls for liking yaoi, unless said fangirls go to far.

    The bottom line is, there is a way fo both yaoi and non-yaoi fans to cosist in the fanfiction world.

  38. Lei says:

    Look, Asians are some fuking crazy yaoi fangirls too, dont bullshit me (Im asian, and I saw these crazy stuff happen at cons =_=). Not every yaoi fangirls are rabid and “follow gay guys around” , whats wrong with writing slash fanfics between two guys together? Let the people do their thing. Why do you even care if people write those kinda stuff? If you hate it so much, then go do your own thing somewhere else. And no, I dont hate on everyone who doesnt like yaoi and call them all homophobes/losers. I only call people that if they are greatly insulting and are immature about it…I also hate Sasunaru, EdRoy thing that’s been going on =__=; Thats just weird. Wow and that “fat yaoi fangirl” shit…I LMAOED xD; I hope I didnt offend you but, you went kinda overboard in some ways.

    But I do see some of your points. Holy hell, some hardcore yaoi fangirls can be the bitch o_o; It is really scary like you said. I remembered the time where I got bitched at because I hated Sasunare (ohh boy) DO NOT GO TO YAOICONS..I think I was scarred for life when I left the place…=.= P.S. Slash fics are entertaining man..I tell you..:o

  39. Lei says:

    Oh, I forgot to say that I dont like Gravitation o.o and fake….

  40. Kuro-chan says:

    i think that a lot of the things you said wer wrong, i am a big fan of shonen ai (some Yaoi, but i cant sstomech sex in general((IM 13 PEOPLE!)) but i dont rty to force other people to think the same way i do
    i read a lot of slash fics, but thats cus sometimes i cant stand females (even though i am one…lol) and i went to a anime con…. there wasn’t really any rabid fans ( though maybe thats because im aussie…?

  41. mimori says:

    I’m thirteen and I love sasunaru. And yes I’ve read huge amounts of fanfics that were M+rated. That’s just what I’m into and I don’t think I could change that 😛 But I’m not a rabid fangirl I’m a normal one who keeps to hearself happily reading her smut. If someone does’nt like yaoi that’s fine I was’nt into it at first either. I think rabid fangirls are making us look like crazy bitches , and we should put a stop to them and not to our beloved yaoi. =3

    I also like fics with blood, incest, rape, cutting, orgies, and bondage…..As you can see I’m a bit sadistic.

  42. Mikan says:

    @ author: You’re entitled to your opinion, but every person has a different taste that we can see as weird…

    I’m Asian as well, and I saw lotsa animecons with hardcore yaoi fans making the animecon a yaoicon and my male friends are a bit annoyed about it… And a lot of yaoi fans are making some yaoi pairings even with Johnnys. >.

  43. Mikan says:

    I’m after the plot, and character, btw. Not the couple. If a yaoi comic has a good plot even if it has a lot of errrr… “you know” scenes then I consider it as a good one.

  44. Reva says:

    I think it’s entertaining that a few of the “rabid yaoi fangirls” actually left comments on here.

    I can’t understand why anyone would claim hatred of yaoi is equal to homophobia. My own gay man friends are not big on yaoi, most of them claiming that it’s not really realistic or interesting, but at the same time there’s nothing particularly hardcore going on. So there’s nothing interesting for them. Now, yaoi that either A: seriously dealt with issues homosexual people face or B: Had realistic, HARD CORE sex would probably sit well with them, but most yaoi lacks both of these things.

    In fact, in some cases you could actually make the argument that certain yaoi series are THEMSELVES homophobic in a way, because they are so unrealistic and bland, and clearly just written to entertain female fans. (not that I have a problem with gay porn aimed at women! I just think we need to admit that yaoi isn’t really for men, even gay men.)

  45. Mubashwer says:

    absolutely despise yaoi n yuri simply disgustin n grosss

  46. Ra says:

    yaoi fangirls are the worst shit I have ever seen on the planet (with the pedophilias). every time they see a man, they slash with another boy. eh fanshit, oops fangirls, do you know that a man isn’t gay most of the time ? and he doesn’t want to it ? the yaoi fangirls see love/sex when they see 2 guys on the same room (even if it the father and the son), they see love when it is a frienship.

    Conclusion ? yaoi fangirls are some perverted and disturbed shit. And I’m a boy, I’m not excited when I see 2 girls together… So I think yes, fangirls are the worst. Just die, please die.

  47. Ra says:

    I just want to add one more time : I hate pedophile, yaoi fangirls, yuri, fanservice and all these things.

  48. Em says:

    I’m a yaoi fangirl… I’m guilty of writing fanfiction and drawing fancomics and I don’t really hide the fact that I’m a fan of it. I don’t rant and I keep any squealing restricted to my mind. I’m not fat, though I do eat like a pig, and unless I’m overly excited about reading through to the end of a story I usually keep my yaoi to the privacy of my room.

    That being said, I also don’t push yaoi on people and, unless someone calls my hobby disgusting, I don’t have a problem with them not liking it. Everyone has their preferences. You can read your nice, unrealistic hetero comics and I’ll read MY unrealistic homo comics and never shall the two meet unless I happen to take a liking to the one you’re reading.

    And as much as I enjoy a good yaoi manga, I can also read “normal” books and “normal” manga when the mood strikes me. Every person treats their hobbies differently, so just because there are more aggressive fans out there doesn’t mean we’re all crazy people waiting to pounce and push every man we see together.

    It’s only fantasy and I’d rather keep to my fictional characters than swoon over actual guys. I like yaoi BECAUSE it’s so unrealistic and I just prefer looking at boy characters rather than girls. No big deal.

    Ahhhh well, I’ll stop typing your ear off. Must be getting to bed so I can start a long, full day of reading yaoi and being a loud-mouthed pervert. *rolls eyes*

  49. Yuri-san says:

    *reads post and comments*

    Holy Shit– Forget the “Yaoi Fangirls”, YOU guys are scary… O_o
    It’s just Boy’s-Love stories made by women (well, mosly women; there are some male authors/manga-kas).
    I mean…damn, people. Just… Damn.

    *backs away slowly*

  50. Tsuki-san says:

    Not to sound high-and-mighty…but it sounds like a lot of [or all of…] the yaoi-haters here haven’t ever even read yaoi (or at least not enough to get a good scope of the genre), so, to the yaoi-haters: keep your bashing to yourselves – at least until you actually know what you’re talking about and have something more to say than “Eww, gross” (essentially). ^_^

    ~Signed: One Extremely Polite Yaoi Fan (Hey, I didn’t bitch you out, did I?)

    P.S. ^^ Yuri-san’s post is my favorite. XD Damn indeed.

  51. rawr says:

    woot woot. i luuuuv YAOI!! xD but, none of those series are very really long…:( so i have to fill up my pc with action, samuai, ninja, and sportas animes while im between good yaois. AND, the reason girls like to watch yaoi, is the same reason guys like to see yuri! so no matter what ur gender is, you should understand mostly ….
    Personally tho, i like enzai and ‘papa to kiss in the dark’…

    so far…i havent found a yaoi that i like as much as some other animes.
    BEST ANIMES EVER”: deathnote(killing?), naruto (ninja), bleach(shinigami), eyehshield 21 (football), peacemaker kurogane(15 year old loli shota boy tries to become strong samurai), full metal alchemist(action, scientific magic?), hajime no ippo(bullied kid becomes japans stongest feathweight boxing champ), COWBOY BEBOP, HELLSING

  52. ShojiX says:

    The insane yaoi fan girls/ normal rabid fan girls scare me a lot. They start screaming at the top of their lungs at you if you don’t like whatever they like, and even walk up to you and act like they’ll hit you one. (this happened to me, fortunately I left before violence occurred) I have to keep silent in places because I don’t know what reaction I’ll get from fans. They really are making anime and cons less fun for us normal and reasonable people.
    This girl actually wanted to start a fight because she truly believed an anime character was real. Yikes! It’s just a picture on paper.
    And sure I like certain yaoi, I’ve read my share, I know what means what and who are the most fave pairings. But seriously, don’t these girls have any other life than attacking others who just have a different opinion? Or spend their time shoving it in our faces? I know this one girl who I asked her opinion and she went on a rampage, talking so loudly in public about sexual ‘stuff’ that people were looking at us like we were some awful perverts. (I wouldn’t blame them.) I was so embarrassed…
    We get the picture girls, move on.

  53. bure.chan says:

    Specially the yaoi fangirls of Tsubasa with FyexKurogane waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa kyaa I can´t take it anymore in forums they only see that!! on episodes!!! waaa .. I have gay friends xD for them it´s ok to see that kind of story BUT see the sex part iack!!! no no i cant!! that´s why I never see yaoi xDD only shounen ai like Yami no matsuei anime jaja

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  55. K says:

    On the whole, I’m inclined to agree with you. I read yaoi when I feel like it, and when I don’t I read pretty much everything. However, I think the whole ‘You only like such and such because of the yaoi’, or ‘These characters are not gay so stop writing them as such’. The first one i can understand as a generalisation, but the second..
    Well, the thing about fanfics; they’re the excuse for a person to write their favourite characters doing something that they might not normally do, or getting thrown into a whole new situation.
    So making a bit of subtext and writing it as if it were more , whether it’s yaoi, yuri or het, is just a normal continuation.

    I happen to live in a part of England where the ‘Otaku’ sub-culture is pretty much non-existant, or just very well hidden, so I’ve never yet met a real life yaoi-fangirl(I think).

    Also-Slash every known canonical character (do not, for the love of God, tell me how much you love Roy heart Ed! Don’t touch my Roy!)

    That kind of sound a bit fangirlish to me. After all, the whole ‘Don’t touch my precious bishonen-kun’ Is considered a staple.
    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think it’s a bad thing- I’ve been guilty of fangirlism more times than I can count, however doing that while riling against fangirls and acting as though you alone can dictate what we can and can’t do in our stories? Seriously, that not okay.

    Finally, every genre is subject to stereotypical plots regularly. the Yaou/Shounen-ai/BL genre is not only still pretty new, its also pretty much mostly written by newly pubescent girls, who are just trying to fulfill their little fantasies and have found a way to share them with others.
    Sure some might go over the top at times. But cut them some slack- 80% will grow out of it, and come to realise what they did was not their best works. Still, all you do is seem a bit to uptight and not very smart if you just start ranting on something without thinking it through.

    And if none of that works? Just ignore them and get on with you life. It certainly works for me.

  56. Ricardo says:

    Mimori, you reckon you’re 13 years old, and you’re into all sorts of gross crap. Kid, I can already tell that someone’s parents have really, really failed. Rabid Yaoi fangirls totally blow. There’s the normal kind, who while I don’t agree with you, you don’t bug me, I’ll try not to bug you, we’re cool. Then you get the lunatics like the idiots flaming this blog, and those are the ones who need their own special ward in a mental hospital, IMO. How hard is it to watch an anime without your main thought being “Hmmm, I wonder how I can change the personalities of these characters to make them into perverted, nymphomaniacal sodomites for me and my fellow lunatics to she-fap to!”

    Sorry for the psuedo-rant, but this is somethin’ I feel pretty strongly about.

  57. Janina says:

    I think I agree with you. Yaoi fangirls seem scarier offline than online actually.

    I think I find them scary is because they are so FINE with it. I’d never say, “I LOVE YAOI!” randomly, and in public. I enjoy it at home more *cough cough pervert* than in public.

    I love yaoi, but I do respect that you don’t. You tried it; good for you! I have noticed it can get a little frivolous at times, but I overlook that for the sake of the hot guys and romantic-ness.

    I don’t believe in how you said Gravitation has bad art. (I’ve only seen the anime. Is the manga worse in drawing?) I really thought it was beautifully drawn in the anime.

  58. brainbunny says:

    i kind of agree with you there. Although I think i can classify myself As a scary yaoifangirl. i do not think heterosexuality is “the devils work and all should be gay” which is what some YFG’s i know are like. although i find myself screaming at the top of my lungs and giggling when anything possibley “homoerotic” is hapening near me. sorry im rambling what I mean is; people should be more afraid of fangirls yaoi and het alike, then they are. especialy fanboys. Im pretty sure you could break an FF7 fanboys mind if you could show them the amount of manman lovin that is hinted in the game.

  59. sape101 says:

    This post just cracks me up!

  60. Foxfire575 says:

    I do like the fact that you tell it how it is and hold nothing back. You are true to the letter so to speak lol. To get to the point anime is anime, plan and simple. You eather hate or you love and most people don’t understand that, so they have to make a big deal about it. well that’s all i have to say and it might sound stupid but who cares!

  61. Ifinishedwritingthisby1249sleepynow says:

    I do like yaoi, I admit it, I do.

    And I ‘think’ my friends knows this, most of them don’t really ‘like’ the idea but I don’t hate them for this, I actually respect them, and when I have things that actually shows that I do not mind ‘gay’ relationships I would warn them first, telling them that they should watch what they are touching because they might see what they shouldn’t or wouldn’t want to see, but even thought they knew of my addiction, obsession or whatever the hell the other people wants to call us who likes yaoi, I’m glad they understand me, respected and accepted what I want, and no, I’m not a rabid fan girl, I do have some ‘sense’ and once someone ‘try’ to tell bad things about my chosen pairing, I try to approach them on a good way, warning and all.

    I don’t hate you, nope, I really don’t.

    And not all ‘yaoi fans’ are rabid, some of us knows how to control our urges, and still knows how to read ‘hetero’ pairings,(I do, I am still addicted with SessKag pairing, RyoSaku and NatsuMikan even now.)

    Hn, reading this was actually out of pure accident, I was just finding a Doujinshi that is Yaoi, but reading this was worth my time, because even thought I am already a year (I think) old in this ‘Yaoi Industry’ I do admit I haven’t heard of this ‘Scary Yaoi Fangirls’ agenda, until now, and now that I’m aware of how dangerous they are, also I’ll try not to be one of them.

    (You are so lucky you get to go to any Cons, when I can’t, *sigh* One day I will thought, and yes, about this cons, I used to watch vids about Cons (Some of them normal ones, yeah, not Yaoi) and I admit ‘FanGirl’s’ screams do make my ears bleed, even if I am not using Headphones. And this kind of make me hesitate of going on a real con for the fear of having my ear drums probably crack or what.)

  62. misty says:

    xD i admit i’m a yaoi fangirl, a pretty big one too [as in, i hate most het-pairings, because i find most of the women annoying– don’t take offense in this; im a female] but i’ll never force anyone to like yaoi. quite a few of my friends HATE yaoi, and while it’s fun to torment them by showing them pictures, i won’t straight out hate them for it.

    honestly, most rabid-yaoi-fangirls are offensive to me, because they start a lot of stereotypes that are mostly intolerable and annoying, such as “all fangirls SQUEE~ over subtle hints of yaoi.” i do find a lot of yaoi-hints in anime, but i realise that it wasn’t intended to be full-on bo love [unless you’re talking about the third-episode kiss between Naruto and Sasuke…]

    the people that squee over yaoi because its “omfg so hawt~!” make me angry too.. while some yaoi anime IS about the sex, i prefer them with a little bit of story, even if it’s just backstory. i need to actually see some emotion in the story, otherwise i just feel like im watching animated porn.

    some people will classify me as a rabid-fangirl, i’ve been told that quite a few times actually, but i know where the limits are and i respect boundaries. i will scream at two guys kissing at anime conventions [mostly because it’s expected of me >>] but i won’t go up and say “dude, make out with him, NOW” because that’s rude.

    ~shrug~

  63. Ari-chan says:

    Yaoi-fangirls scare me. A lot. I’m not a fan of yaoi even through I watched Gravitation. I just don’t get it… what’s so amazing at it? For me Gravitation was a comedy, nothing else, I just couldn’t take characters seriously… Yaoi seems like a tool to watch lots of sex, it usually doesn’t have a plot and characters are pretty ridiculous. I just don’t find it appealing.

    ‘Because it’s hot!’ Is not an excuse. You could say about a shirt that is ‘hot’ or ‘sexy’ so it doesn’t make any sense. So I guess all yaoi-readers are perverted?

    Also you can’t talk to a yaoi-fangirl without being accused of being a homophobe, if you don’y like the genre. What does that have anything to do with it? A homophone is a person who dislikes homosexuality, so if you say that you don’t like… let’s say Coca-Cola, makes you anti-american or something?

    I’m just stating my opinion. I don’t really care about Yaoi, if I find it in a series I just shrug and continue watching what interests me. I don’t pay attention to this that don’t interest me in real life either. You may want to visit this, just to get a laught at:

    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Yaoi_Fangirl

  64. Ari-chan says:

    Oh yeah and about incest… I admit that’s gross big time! I mean you would have sex with your own sibiling? Hasn’t anyone heard of ‘family love’? People who like this thing are not right in the head.

    You can flame me all you want but I won’t change my opinion about it.

  65. Salem~chan says:

    I do admit of being a yaoi [somewhat. I like to watch romance but not a lot of Yaoi because it turns my brain into mush 😦 ] fangirl, but to those who are just dubbing all the yaoi fangirls crazy fanatics and saying you can’t go up to one and say your opinion without getting flamed, it obviously hasn’t occurred to you, and as the PREVIOUS people said, PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. I respect other people’s opinion because I don’t give a crap if someone likes yaoi or not. Don’t judge someone just because of a small (large, medium whatever) group of fanatic fangirls. I mean, yaoi is okay but yuri and incest grosses me out big time. If you like it, ok. I get that and I’ll respect it. PEOPLE. CALM DOWN. To the author, I think out of all the comments, ”K’s” was the smartest. :3 Peace.

  66. A says:

    FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME.
    I get SO tired of the majority of the yaoi fandom bashing every single female character because she would ‘ruin the paring’ or ‘keep the guys apart’.
    HELLO. I mean, it’s not like every guy wants to have buttsex with his best friend.

    Honestly. And I’m not even homophobic. I just think that fangirling over a pairing that isn’t even cannon, just because you think it’s ‘hot’ is scary.

    And what is with this ‘yaoi is ok but yuri is gross’ logic, anyway?

  67. Jessie says:

    I always assumed fangirls were Asian? I’ve never met a rabid fangirl in the States, but maybe that’s cause the people I know are college students and most of us are slightly ashamed of our love of yaoi.

  68. Sigh says:

    I met those fangirls in youtube actually ididnt bash the pair but i hust say they should mark it R-18 doujinshi because if kids saw that it will be no good and they attack me like ”you home phobe get out of this video if you dont like it” -_-;

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  70. Cool fangirl says:

    …..Am I the only one who has never met a rabid yaoi fangirl in my life…on or offline? I mean I think yaoi haters are actually more numerous and aggressive in their opinions. I mean I am generally respectful of peoples opinions because that was how I was raised, therefore I respect people like Atazure because even though they aren’t into the things I am they said so in a respectful way, thus gaining my respect. The opinions I DON’T respect are from people (usually guys but that’s besides the point) like “Ra” who said all fangirls are “perverted and disturbed shit” and at the end of his comment told them to” Die, just go die”. I cannot and Will not respect that opinion simply because it was rude and uninformed. First off fangirls can like what they like however they choose to like it. To compare a yaoi fangirl to a pedophile shows that you probably have never even been with in 5 meters of a yaoi book and that you have never met a fangirl. If you don’t like yaoi, fine, but do not insult it and its fans. It makes you no better than those “rabid yaoi fangirls” you were ranting about a few minutes ago and makes you look like a hypocrite.

  71. Cool fangirl says:

    I swear, why isn’t there something called a “Rabid Yaoi hater”? Because they are far worst than any Yaoi fangirl, believe me, just go to youtube….=-=

    But any way I can understand some of what you say but what is wrong with slash/fanfics? I read and write them (proudly) and the one thing I never understood is peoples need to stick to canon pairings so much. No I don’t think every anime guy HAS to be in a gay relationship witb some other guy in the series and no I don’t think that every guy in anime is gay. However it is called Fan Fiction for a reason. I generally tend to stray from canon pairings (yaoi or not) because I like the novelty in them! They are interesting and believe it or not but some authors actually make it work, even though the characters aren’t gay. Some fics still manage to have a well thought out plot, in character characters, and they didn’t stray too far from the series. But like I said earlier you are just as entitled to you’re opinion like I am. Also I don’t think fangirls vary so much between countries seeing as how I know some from Canada, England, and the Philippines, but that might just be me…

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  75. lilmissballerina says:

    I’m a shonen-ai fan myself, and I’m thirteen, but because of my age and interest, I guess I’m automatically sucked into the “horny-yaoi-crazed-teenage-girl” category that is so prominent. I hate pornography and was taught that it was bad. I adore my fandom and my “ships,” heck, I even write fanfiction that deals with the dramatic and loving side of a relationship rather than the cliched inaccurate sexual side. I wish yaoi fans would calm the heck down, I’m a lover of love, but that doesn’t mean I put you down for disliking BL! It seems we’re a stereotype, huh? (Love the blog, BTW.)

  76. Well, I’m a big fan of Yaoi and while I think I do fit into some parts of your description of rabid fangirls, I’ve always respected how other people want to see things. I mean, sure, I’ll run around proclaiming my love for yaoi but I won’t impose my way of seeing things on other people, my best friend’s a yaoi-hater so yeah. It’s kinda insulting how you like lumped all rabid fangirls together like we’re all so arrogant but I can understand where you’re coming from. I just wanted to let you know that not all rabid fangirls are so imposing/stuck up. Even if I think that Yaoi is the best thing in the world and read at least ten slash fics a day, I don’t believe that you have to feel the same way. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion…as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone. Loved the Canada post by the way, I still wish I could buy Yaoi manga in Singapore…

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  80. Fiona says:

    how about we talk about scary het shipper? Because they exist.

  81. Concerned Homosmexual says:

    I must admit, I know next to nothing about anime—at all. The extent of anime I’ve watched is Yuri on Ice. Now, don’t get me wrong, I liked that series very much, but as a gay man, I gotta say—I’m pissed.

    The world has spent hundreds of years finding the most creative ways to torture and murder members of the gay community, and now suddenly there are straight people who want to make money off of us? While I did enjoy Yuri on Ice, I was upset by the fact that it completely avoids any form of sexual or romantic physical contact between the two main characters. Maybe I’m paranoid, but this whole trend of either over sexualizing gay characters, or completely dehumanizing them by presenting them in such a way that people don’t have to be “offended” by expressions of love between same sex couples is nothing new. I’ve seen it many times.

    Now, I have no problem with people not in the gay community enjoying stories of homosexual romance. In fact I encourage it. But when straight girls start to read homoerotic stories (or write them) and begin to just “love gay people so much” they are in fact homophobic. They objectify us. Not only that, they should have lives!!! Attention to all teenage girls who want to have a gay best friend: WE DO NOT WANT TO BE YOUR GAY BEST FRIEND, NOR DO WE WANT YOU TO ASK US TO HELP YOU PICK YOIR OUTFITS, TO COME UP TO US WHEN WE ARE WITH OUR ROMANTIC PARTNERS, OR TO OBJECTIFY US!!! WE HAVE LIVES, KAREN, LIVES.

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