Comments on: For the last time, I’m not a homophobe! http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/ Manga, Anime and a sideorder of Bishies Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:54:12 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: brainbunny http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10964 brainbunny Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:05:01 +0000 http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10964 hi please dont think this is a flame but i kinda of want to respond to what you said. "do they even realize what REAL gay relationships are like? yaoi manga is romance written for girls– kind of like lesbian porn for guys, it’s pretty far away from reality!". I cant speak for every yaoi fangirl in the universe but I have discussed this before with a few of my friends who are YFG's as well and we Know it is fantasy Often very dark and over dramatic. And Dont agree with alot of the trashy "non-con" (as it is dubiously titled) plots. But i think the same can be said for Heterosexual manga/hentai, it is extremely unrealistic. i can see by your post your'e intelligent and i dont mean to patronise you, but the common assumuption that yaoifangirls believe what theyre reading as a given, gets to me. thankyou :) hi please dont think this is a flame but i kinda of want to respond to what you said.

“do they even realize what REAL gay relationships are like? yaoi manga is romance written for girls– kind of like lesbian porn for guys, it’s pretty far away from reality!”.

I cant speak for every yaoi fangirl in the universe but I have discussed this before with a few of my friends who are YFG’s as well and we Know it is fantasy Often very dark and over dramatic.

And Dont agree with alot of the trashy “non-con” (as it is dubiously titled) plots.

But i think the same can be said for Heterosexual manga/hentai, it is extremely unrealistic. i can see by your post your’e intelligent and i dont mean to patronise you, but the common assumuption that yaoifangirls believe what theyre reading as a given, gets to me. thankyou :)

]]> By: vampirekitty http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10912 vampirekitty Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:04:27 +0000 http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10912 One thing you have to learn about people and many, many fangirls in the world is that they do not like to read. They like to look at the pretty pictures. This goes especially for the yaoi fangirls that just want to see the hot man love. On top of that, most human beings see very base words. We like to think of ourselves as people who see the world in all colors, but when it comes to words, we usually see it in black and white. If the words "don't like" are placed ANYWHERE in something that is written, no matter the context, people will see it as "don't like." There is no in-between. And it seems that human beings naturally love conflict, because they will latch onto the negative. Never mind if "like" is in there as well, if there is "don't like" that's what will be called upon. I recently had an experience with a writer that I gave comments to. I liked her story, quite a bit. I told her so; and with specific points that I really liked as well. But I made the mistake of giving one small opinion, that I tried to phrase as nicely as I possibly could. She took it far too personally and told me that if I didn't like it then I didn't have to read it. People don't like to read. I'm not saying that this goes for ALL people. There is the potential for intelligence within the human race. But for the most part, this is how people are. I imagine you've already got all the opinions you need, since this was made September 2006. ^^; But everybody likes to put in their two cents. Sure makes me feel a little more special, lol. Have a nice day. One thing you have to learn about people and many, many fangirls in the world is that they do not like to read. They like to look at the pretty pictures. This goes especially for the yaoi fangirls that just want to see the hot man love. On top of that, most human beings see very base words. We like to think of ourselves as people who see the world in all colors, but when it comes to words, we usually see it in black and white. If the words “don’t like” are placed ANYWHERE in something that is written, no matter the context, people will see it as “don’t like.” There is no in-between. And it seems that human beings naturally love conflict, because they will latch onto the negative. Never mind if “like” is in there as well, if there is “don’t like” that’s what will be called upon.

I recently had an experience with a writer that I gave comments to. I liked her story, quite a bit. I told her so; and with specific points that I really liked as well. But I made the mistake of giving one small opinion, that I tried to phrase as nicely as I possibly could. She took it far too personally and told me that if I didn’t like it then I didn’t have to read it.

People don’t like to read. I’m not saying that this goes for ALL people. There is the potential for intelligence within the human race. But for the most part, this is how people are. I imagine you’ve already got all the opinions you need, since this was made September 2006. ^^; But everybody likes to put in their two cents. Sure makes me feel a little more special, lol.

Have a nice day.

]]> By: Crazyanimegyrl http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10906 Crazyanimegyrl Mon, 26 May 2008 00:42:58 +0000 http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10906 Ooops! Meant to say "corrupt, capitalized world." Ooops! Meant to say “corrupt, capitalized world.”

]]> By: Crazyanimegyrl http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10905 Crazyanimegyrl Mon, 26 May 2008 00:41:47 +0000 http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10905 I read your Scary Yaoi Fangirls posts and I thought you hit the nail on the button. I myself have seen the craziness! Not in any way did I thought you portrayed as being a homophobe. It was a well written blog. Am I a Yaoi Fangirl? Yes I am --- just not one of the crazy ones. There are some good Authors out there and I am a fan. Why would anyone pick up a book in the first place? To escape what they would deemed "their reality, and go to a far away place." Yaoi is just another Genre... period. My sister reads romance such as Danielle Steele. I won't read her stuff, nor will she read Yaoi. I don't know... I find it funny that folks try so hard to be 'political correct' in such a correct, capitalized world. Eck! Go figure. :o) I read your Scary Yaoi Fangirls posts and I thought you hit the nail on the button. I myself have seen the craziness!

Not in any way did I thought you portrayed as being a homophobe. It was a well written blog. Am I a Yaoi Fangirl? Yes I am — just not one of the crazy ones. There are some good Authors out there and I am a fan.

Why would anyone pick up a book in the first place? To escape what they would deemed “their reality, and go to a far away place.” Yaoi is just another Genre… period. My sister reads romance such as Danielle Steele. I won’t read her stuff, nor will she read Yaoi.

I don’t know… I find it funny that folks try so hard to be ‘political correct’ in such a correct, capitalized world.

Eck! Go figure. :o )

]]> By: Zharlie http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10838 Zharlie Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:56:42 +0000 http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-10838 "one of the most irritating response I get when I say I don’t like the genre was the accusation that because I don’t like it, that means I’m a homophobe." I hear you. All because I don't plan to vote for Obama (a black candidate for President) that means I'm a racist. It's a knee jerk reaction for those who can't debate and so resort to name calling and the likes. I came upon your site because I was looking for some manga review and since I'm not a yaio reader I needed some more objective reviewer before I inflict the book upon my friend even though he specifically asked for it for his birthday..... you know, to practice foreign language skill (roll eyes). I heard about the iffy non-con part of the series and I really object to that sort of ..um...storytelling. From your review it doesn't sound like the usual dreaded fall-in-love-with-the-rapist plotline so I guess it's alright. P.S., going by some of the comments of regular yaio readers here, the homosexual relationships depicted in those comic books sounds nothing like how my gay friends describe their relationships to me (oh WHY do they talk to me!? I don't even like it when my girlfriends give me too much details) and it sounds more like the barely-speaking physically violent aspects of those 2 sheep herders in Brokeback Mountrain. Now that I write this, it does sound like those characters in Tyrant Fall in Love. “one of the most irritating response I get when I say I don’t like the genre was the accusation that because I don’t like it, that means I’m a homophobe.”

I hear you. All because I don’t plan to vote for Obama (a black candidate for President) that means I’m a racist. It’s a knee jerk reaction for those who can’t debate and so resort to name calling and the likes.

I came upon your site because I was looking for some manga review and since I’m not a yaio reader I needed some more objective reviewer before I inflict the book upon my friend even though he specifically asked for it for his birthday….. you know, to practice foreign language skill (roll eyes). I heard about the iffy non-con part of the series and I really object to that sort of ..um…storytelling. From your review it doesn’t sound like the usual dreaded fall-in-love-with-the-rapist plotline so I guess it’s alright.

P.S., going by some of the comments of regular yaio readers here, the homosexual relationships depicted in those comic books sounds nothing like how my gay friends describe their relationships to me (oh WHY do they talk to me!? I don’t even like it when my girlfriends give me too much details) and it sounds more like the barely-speaking physically violent aspects of those 2 sheep herders in Brokeback Mountrain. Now that I write this, it does sound like those characters in Tyrant Fall in Love.

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]]> By: Kowa http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-2135 Kowa Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:39:21 +0000 http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-2135 Yeah a lot of "Yaoi" fans are rather unintelligent. Also they like to claim a Boys Love as Yaoi, when Yaoi is just an acronym and is basically a manga with no plot or anything and just has pointless male sex. (e.g. I've heard many girls squeeling about how Gravitation is the ultimate Yaoi, and I correct them telling them its Boys Love and they throw a hissy fit and tell me I'm wrong -_-') Sure I love some guy on guy action, but I'm not gunna go bashing someones head in if they don't agree with me. These fans are mostly immature brats who just need to grow up and realize theres more than one point of view in life but your own. Rabid fangirls are always a scarey force, no matter what fandom they are associated with. I'd love for them to see real interactions between homosexual men and see just how different they are from these flowery and beautiful depictions we get in manga/anime. Or even the completely angst ridden ones. Its far from reality, >_> But on a side note, its probably why I like it XD! But I've spent many a times with my gay friends and love the way they interact with each other as well, because its more real. But yes, its really sad that such people exist and I'm sorry they direct their attacks at you, but what else can be expected from them, ne? Yeah a lot of “Yaoi” fans are rather unintelligent. Also they like to claim a Boys Love as Yaoi, when Yaoi is just an acronym and is basically a manga with no plot or anything and just has pointless male sex. (e.g. I’ve heard many girls squeeling about how Gravitation is the ultimate Yaoi, and I correct them telling them its Boys Love and they throw a hissy fit and tell me I’m wrong -_-’)
Sure I love some guy on guy action, but I’m not gunna go bashing someones head in if they don’t agree with me. These fans are mostly immature brats who just need to grow up and realize theres more than one point of view in life but your own.
Rabid fangirls are always a scarey force, no matter what fandom they are associated with.
I’d love for them to see real interactions between homosexual men and see just how different they are from these flowery and beautiful depictions we get in manga/anime. Or even the completely angst ridden ones. Its far from reality, >_> But on a side note, its probably why I like it XD!
But I’ve spent many a times with my gay friends and love the way they interact with each other as well, because its more real.

But yes, its really sad that such people exist and I’m sorry they direct their attacks at you, but what else can be expected from them, ne?

]]> By: Lapin http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-2134 Lapin Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:33:21 +0000 http://animebento.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/for-the-last-time-im-not-a-homophobe/#comment-2134 Ugh. Yaoi. And fangirls. I don't like any type of hentai or most ecchi in general, so yaoi really gets to me. What most people don't understand is that it doesn't mean you dislike shounen-ai, but that you probably realize how absolutely disgustingly degrading yaoi can be. In my opinion, girls squeeing over two guys making out is just as bad as a homophobe. And why is it that most fangirls always forget the shoujo-ai? Ugh. Yaoi. And fangirls. I don’t like any type of hentai or most ecchi in general, so yaoi really gets to me. What most people don’t understand is that it doesn’t mean you dislike shounen-ai, but that you probably realize how absolutely disgustingly degrading yaoi can be. In my opinion, girls squeeing over two guys making out is just as bad as a homophobe.

And why is it that most fangirls always forget the shoujo-ai?

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